Welcome Listeners of the Brands on Brands Podcast


Thanks for listening to my interview with Brandon Birkmeyer on his sensational Brands on Brands podcast. We examined how you can simplify your brand storytelling for greater impact.

Brandon is such a gracious and insightful host. We had a terrific time exploring how you can use the ABT (And, But, Therefore) agile narrative framework to not only focus your brand narrative but to us this messaging marvel to tell your stories.

You’ll learn how to clarify your sales stories, amplify your impact and simplify your life.



  • Park Howell: The World’s Most Industrious Storyteller

    Grow as a confident and influential communicator.

  • Apply the ABT (And, But, Therefore) agile narrative framework to make all of your messages land right the first time.
  • Become more persuasive using the Five Primal Elements of a short story for big impact.
  • Craft compelling presentations with the 10-step Story Cycle System™

But you have to understand the magic to cast the spell. That’s why I’m here to help you excel through the stories you tell.

Please use promo code brands-abt (all lowercase), for 30% off your ABTs of Agile Communications™ online course. #StoryOn!


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